Hi Folks,

    You folks should be used to the simple fact that in the US the CDC and ATSDR and really the EPA are the front organizations for industry to tell the public-----no problems.   These are the referees that keep the public off the polluters.    The liabilities for the current toxic industrial disease nightmare we have going at the moment lands right in the lap, liabilty wise, of EPA and CDC.    These agencies really like their jobs, and don't want to show their data to get them prosecuted.   Which means the duty of getting this problem solved lies in each of your hands.

   Only after there is a terrible body count and EPI studies that can't be burried is any thing ever found to be wrong by CDC or EPA.    Till then there are just "no problems."    Or we don't have any data, can't see that or this.  Excuses.       No real attempts to look for the problem or expose it in the press.

   These "no problems" referee agencies like to suck the public into EPI studies instead of the mechanisms of disease which will quickly find the diseases mechanism and explain why the basic toxic mechanism has such a wide disease outcome or syndromes.    Looking at the disease outcomes won't get any answers, just confusion.    The key lies in looking at the toxic pathway, the cells affected, and the expected disease outcomes.   The top down path, not the stand at the confusion of the bottom and look back.

Examples:

    In the US the breast cancer rates are around 1 in 10 will get breast cancer.   When a person gets breast cancer, the first thing that happens is the lymph nodes get cancers also.      In radical cancer cure, these lymph systems are removed.

   The reason the lymph system came down with cancers too is simply because it stopped working well, the cellular immune energy and toxicity are off, and the cancer in the breast is not held in check and the marginally working immune cells even infect the lymph nodes themselves and this is how the cancer then spreads all thru the body.

   Cancers are the direct result of toxins affecting the lymph system.

   We know toxins affect things like the toxicity of killer T-cells, and via the exact same mechanisms the activity and toxicity of phages is also impaired and this allows the contamination of lymph systems with cancer viruses that then go uncontrolled.

   Now, skip into the issue of toxic metals in lungs and the lymph system effects there.    For an extreme metel toxic, consider beryllium dust compounds.   Beryllium is toxic to cells and the fine dusts lodge in the lungs, where the immune cells pull the very insoluble dusts into the lungs local lymph nodes and this shuts down the cellular immunity.    So, these lungs loose the main cell damage repair mechanism and the next thing that happens is they literally begin to calcify and harden like a rock.   As that process continues, they will die.    They might get lung cancer first, but they generally die of breathing problems in the extreme.

   Same kinda things associate with DU dusts, they lodge in the lungs, move to the lungs lymph nodes with macrophage action as insoluble oxides and slow down the cellular immunity.    DU will slowly dissolve from the lymph system and move to bone and other tissues and it persists in the body for decades.  In the mean time, the cellular immunity is at increased toxic risk and various diseases may appear.

   In general, with the many toxics in the GW, the thorasic lymph system can be poisoned as well and the toxins lodge in tissues and the damaged cells not be cleaned up, and just like in the lungs the calcification of tissues may also set in.   This is connected to issues like fibro.

   The large scale industrial equation includes the pollution factors from fluorides and chlorides that load down the lymph system cells as well.    In Oak Ridge we have many workers and a huge area affected with fluorides pollution and one of the outstanding things is many of them have all the symptoms of CFS and MCS.   This is no accident, as these syndromes are chemically produced.    The Oak Ridge illness look a lot like those seen in the GW syndromes.

   IN each situation, the key is the toxins entering the lymph system and the shut down of the cellular immunity.

   Just look at the toxic pathways and note the immune cells being poisoned is the key to all the mysterious illness syndromes, up to and including cancers.